Interview

Ukraine veteran warns of Russia’s autonomous killer drone threat

Russian war

28 June 2025, 08:30 PM

Author: Demian Shevko
Maria Berlinska, Ukrainian war veteran and head of the Center for Aerial Reconnaissance Support, discusses in her Radio NV interview how Russia is evolving its Shahed drones, adapting tactics to terrorize Ukrainian cities—and why Ukraine must urgently deploy new countermeasures. Edited for clarity, flow, and style.

Q: You’ve written that Russia is developing fully autonomous drones that will be harder to counter than Shaheds. Could you describe the current production of Russian Shaheds and whether they’ll remain a primary terror threat?

A: A new arms race is under way, focused on combat technologies.

Smart nations are quickly learning from the Russia‑Ukraine war and investing in robotic systems—not just airborne but also land and sea drones, electronic warfare tools, and weapons like electromagnetic and laser systems. Fiber‑optic drones are part of this.

I noted recently on social media that the Russians are also learning fast from their failures. When they realized they couldn’t take Kyiv in three days, they switched to a war of attrition—focusing on systems rather than quick wins.

War is about systems, and victory goes to the side that uses limited human resources most efficiently. Russia has a huge advantage—they have roughly five times more manpower, hire foreign mercenaries, and force Ukrainians on occupied territory to fight for them.

The Russians understand air superiority: Whoever controls the sky controls the land. Their initial plan was to destroy our air defenses and dominate our airspace with manned aircraft. We thwarted that with heroic air defense efforts.

Now they aim to reclaim the sky—not with expensive Su‑series jets, but with hundreds of thousands of cheap strike drones. It's a rational use of limited resources and we must think of countermeasures. Technically, these exist—it's no disaster. We have months, perhaps until late this year or early next, to prepare.

Russia will continue to terrorize us with Shaheds and modify them. Expect larger warheads, faster speeds, and evolving tactics. They’re already flying unpredictable routes at higher altitudes and greater speeds—400 km/h on jet engines is no longer fantasy.

Expect diverse Shahed variants and a proliferation of autonomous drones. Russia will streamline production—only a few drone types feeding specialized terror campaigns. And they won't limit themselves to frontline cities: autonomy allows drones to menace peaceful towns like Ternopil, Rivne, Lviv, and Vinnytsia.

We must start defending all cities now. Countermeasures exist—not a single button, but a layered approach that could protect urban areas 98–99%, preventing nightmares in 2026.

Russia will escalate terror if it cannot break the frontline. While our defenders hold, Russia will bomb cities to depopulate and cripple our economy—just as it did in Donbas.

It's time for local leaders to act. Reach out to interceptor drone manufacturers, weapons producers, netting and electronic warfare developers—all the way up to laser and electromagnetic systems. Our volunteer team is ready to advise free of charge to help prepare now—before it’s too late. We have months to stop thousands of killer robots from filling the skies. Controlling the sky means controlling the land.

It may sound like science fiction horror, but this is our reality—and it won’t be such a nightmare if we prepare in advance.

Q: Russia is using various drone‑shootdown technologies. Defense Minister Umerov says firing teams are losing effectiveness. Do you agree they’re outdated and need to shift to other methods?

A: Absolutely. These firing teams are no longer effective—it’s common knowledge among experts. They’ve outlived their usefulness.

We need to retrain personnel on new tools: if interceptor drones work best, equip teams with those. Soon it may be laser weapons. Give people the right tool.

Imagine drone‑motherships releasing swarms of autonomous FPV drones across a city. Unlike Shaheds or missiles following a set path, these drones have their own "vision" and algorithms. They can hover over a district and attack anything they identify—vehicles, people—without human guidance.

Picture thousands of such drones hanging over cities, terrorizing civilians. If in doubt, look at civilian casualties in Kherson and other border towns. Russia intends to make this a permanent terror operation.

We must equip mobile response teams with the tools to shoot them down.

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